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Reproduced from The Western Mail 24 September, 2004
The hit man
As part of Stock, Aitken and Waterman, he defined the sound of the 80s
and introduced the world to Kylie. Two decades on, Mike Stock says his
music was as good as anything by "proper" bands. He should so lucky,
says Gareth Morgan.
SWITCH on the radio in the 1980s, walk into a shop or a local disco, and
the chances are that the sounds tickling your eardrums all had something
in common.
Apart from the likelihood that they featured drum machines, synthesisers
and heavily coiffured singers, the hit parades of that decade were
linked by a shared thread that defined the record industry - and
continues to do so today. When the latest Pop Idol or Fame Academy
specimen rolls off the production line, think of the original Hit
Factory.
Love or loathe the concept, the idea of putting fresh young faces as a
front for calculatingly catchy pop fodder can be traced back 20 years,
to Stock, Aitken and Waterman. Now for the first time, songwriter Mike
Stock is revealing his side of the story, including the acrimonious
bust-up, in a warts-and-all book.
Tales of Kylie Minogue and Jason Donovan litter the pages of The Hit
Factory: The Stock Aitken Waterman Story, providing an audio map of a
decade most of us remember for its unique brand of pop. And The Hit
Factory, Mike Stock says, goes some way to explaining the confusion
behind the tales so often told by his louder former partner Pete
Waterman. But he insists that despite rows and legal wrangling, the team
that sold more records than The Beatles are still friends.
And if you were the sort of indie kid who grew up liking The Smiths and
The Cure while belittling Kylie, Jason and Rick Astley, it might be
worth a quick pause to consider that statistic. More records than the
Beatles. Strange how some music gains credibility over the years, while
the rest seems to be remembered as little more than a joke. But
certainly, SAW made such an impact on the music scene that their story
cannot be forgotten or ignored.
Mike Stock is answering the phone at last after an entire day of trying
to track him down. It turns out he has been - surprise, surprise - in a
five hour meeting with his lawyers, a relatively common occurrence.
"It's not much fun but it has got to be done if you have business
interests," he says. "Certain things blow up in your face when you least
expect it."
Luckily, for a man who spends such time with his lawyers, Stock says he
doesn't hold grudges outside the business world - and that includes
unresolved matters with former colleagues.
"I have always managed to keep the business side of my life separate
from the personal side of things. Pete and Matt (Aitken) can still come
down the pub and have a chat and a laugh, especially Matt.
"Pete finds it a little more difficult but I would not say we have
fallen out completely, over the years.
"So I have tried to be as honest as possible with the book and put
things straight from my perspective. Yes, really, it was a bit like a
divorce in the end. But a divorce without the ill will."
Phew. At least that's opened up the difficult subject of the trio's
split, a decision that was made despite them churning out so many pop
classics.
Or is he just digging it up for the sake of a book deal? "I fought long
and hard with my conscience about this book. It is not just a testament
to vanity," says Mike. "But it was 20 years ago now. Pop was important
to me when I grew up so now we have made our own bit of pop history, I
felt it was important to set the record straight."
For Stock, Aitken and Waterman, when the good times rolled in business
as well as pleasure, boy, were they good. The SAW team saw hundreds of
fledgling pop stars and starlets either launch themselves into the
musical stratosphere or fall cruelly by the wayside as they built their
empire on songs that you just could not get out of your head.
Songs like Kylie Minogue's I Should Be So Lucky, which dominated her
later career so much that she felt the need to recite the lyrics at the
Royal Albert Hall as some sort of purging experience.
Tunes like You Spin Me Right Round (Like A Record Baby), are still
dusted down every Friday night in venues across Britain, from student
unions to family parties, for yet another, erm, spin.
And charity records like Let It Be and Ferry Across the Mersey, the
latter becoming the tragic soundtrack to the aftermath of the
Hillsborough disaster, are still loved.
Whether celebrating the good times or remembering the bad, the standout
points throughout the 80s can all be sound-tracked with a record marked
SAW. And there were lots of those records - in an era when singles were
a real indicator of the public's musical preferences.
"Nowadays you only need to sell a couple of thousand records to get into
the top 40," says Mike. "The charts are not news anymore, they are just
a marketing and promotional tool. You have got to question whether the
BBC is acting in the public interest by continuing to broadcast the top
40."
Strong opinions for a man who so often stayed in the background.
Waterman was the big-mouthed publicist extraordinaire, Aitken was the
engineering wizard. But the quieter Stock was the man largely
responsible for the lasting legacy - the songs. He is furiously opposed
to the opinion that the tunes are throwaway hits churned out without any
real thought. "I was just romantically in love with pop music in general
from a young age. I was writing pop songs as a kid and I am always
looking for that elusive perfect song," he says.
"Aitken and I played all the instruments and we had plenty of fights and
arguments. Believe me, the passion was there. It could look formulaic or
contrived but we would not have had those accusations if we were seen as
a 'proper' band like Oasis or the Beatles. Well, we were a proper band.
It is just that we had younger singers fronting for us."
The most famous was a cute Australian called Kylie Minogue, held up in
the late 80s as the perfect puppet for any pop Svengali; a young and
pretty girl already famous from her role in TV's Neighbours. But Stock
insists that was not quite the case.
"Really nobody knew Kylie when she first came over to Britain," he says,
freely admitting in the book that nobody at SAW gave her any special
treatment during their first meeting. In fact they kept her waiting so
long that the smash hit I Should Be So Lucky was squeezed out in a
45-minute session - and then shelved for months.
"You have to remember that even Neighbours itself was only on at
lunchtime in those days. It actually moved to a peak slot when we had
that hit, so nobody really knew her."
Now Kylie has made a £30m fortune and is still belting out hits, but
Stock refuses to accept the theory that she reinvented herself and moved
away from her roots at SAW. "She might wear a different frock or
hairstyle but she is the same old Kylie. You can't pretend you're
something you are not.
"The songs have lasted through, and that is what I am really getting
at."
He rejects the notion that "real" bands like Nirvana, Blur, the White
Stripes and Franz Ferdinand are any different to his own music. "Very
often talking about 'real music' is just another image, it is all part
of a scam.
"Sometimes you do get a scene like the 'Madchester' era in the early
90s, but that was more about chemicals than music as far as I could
tell."
SAW finally imploded as the music industry grew darker at the tail end
of the 80s; as cocaine became the currency - something Stock insists he
was never involved with - and as the trio got so famous they received
blackmail and death threats.
Then came financial wranglings with record label giants Warner, which
Stock feels diluted the SAW brand. After Aitken had left, Stock and
Waterman were at each other's throats, and the heady days of the Hit
Factory were over for good.
Since then, Stock has gone on to produce dozens more hit records and
hooked up with Pop Idol's Mr Nasty, Simon Cowell, for several projects.
But legal battles and accusations of "hyping" records - buying their
place in the charts - surrounded his new label, Love This Records.
He is still involved in the business now, but fears the industry is in
poor health, and may implode. "And they have brought it upon
themselves." It failed to learn the lessons he was pushing in the 80s:
provide what the public want to hear.
The internet is not helping, with downloads the common way of getting
hold of new music these days, but he says the industry should stop being
so hypocritical. "They are selling ipods and MP3 players and then
blaming the internet for record sales. But if something that people
actually wanted to own was being produced, then people would still go
and buy it. It is like when Sgt Pepper's came out by The Beatles.
Everybody actually physically wanted that record; they wanted to hold
the cover and put it in their collection. People do not want to own most
of these records anymore and certainly do not want to pay for them.
"A great pop song will cross cultural, generational, language barriers.
And the songs you hear now are very inferior. They are boring and middle
aged. I may have been 32 when I had my first hit but we put young people
who looked like pop stars in front. We really did not do things like
they do now. We were a band ourselves and we put excitement and passion
into every chord."

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